By Ben Tipple
Jan 22, 2016 13:09
A lot can happen in 24 hours. It’s a truth that Benio Baumgart, vocalist and former guitarist for the soon-to-be defunct Hindsights, swiftly came to understand. Only a matter of months on from welcoming Tom Richfield into the fold, replacing Baumgart on guitar to free him up for vocal duties, and just weeks after the release of their ‘Wither’ single, Hindsights made an abrupt decision to call it a day.
“It happened within a day,” Baumgart openly admits, of the moment the band realised that Hindsights would soon be no more, “actually, in a much shorter space of time than that.” On that day Baumgart’s conversation with Billy Hutton, now taking on Josh Bannister’s duties in Milk Teeth, took a downward turn. Although not a unanimous decision, it was clear that Hindsights could not continue. “Obviously it’s really sad,” Baumgart states with evident melancholy, “I think we all collectively knew its time was up.”
The story of Hindsights’ end is more complex. Although Hutton’s post-breakup Milk Teeth announcement likely had a big part to play, Benio is more broadminded. “We just couldn’t do anything with it anymore,” he says, expressing frustration at the band’s difficulty in finding an upward trajectory. Despite releasing the critically acclaimed ‘Cold Walls / Cloudy Eyes’ earlier in 2015, their status as a band hadn’t quite followed suit. “We’d done everything we could within the DIY scene, and stretched it as far as it could go. We wanted to take it further, but within the confines of Hindsights we just couldn’t do it.”
Benio is keen to convey that this frustration is not necessarily shared by his fellow band members. Throughout our conversation he reaffirms many statements as his own opinion, not least his candid attitude towards the music industry. “It’s definitely the way the industry works,” he nods, discussing the source of these confines. “If you’re not backed from day one, it’s very hard for aspiring artists to progress.”
It’s a veiled criticism. Benio expresses his gratitude towards the likes of Big Scary Monsters and Beach Community, both of whom provided huge stepping stones for the band. He even recounts how the first contact with both was a career highlight. When asked whether he has learned anything from his experiences, he shrugs with a laugh. Ultimately, it’s an acceptance that some things are just the way they are.
“It’s luck, isn’t it,” Benio muses, arguably spawned by watching many of his friends surpass Hindsights’ success. “Pretty much everything to do with being in a band is luck. If you’re in the right place at the right time, meeting the right people…,” he trails off. Perhaps more to the point, like many relationships, the band were just reaching their natural end. The frustration of not finding the right place had taken its toll. “We’ve been around for twice the amount of time than people notice,” he points out. “We were touring for two years before people had even heard of us.”
The recognition arrived too late. By the time the band gathered momentum the cracks, at least according to Benio, were already there. “We just thought we can’t really carry on as we have been anymore.” With that in mind, it was time to put Hindsights to bed. But not without the memories.
“It was great,” he says in the same upbeat and honest demeanour presented throughout our entire conversation, “a wonderful experience. I met my best and greatest friends.” Benio recalls moments that have defined him, laughing at a potentially illegal tour across the states in 2014, and reminiscing about key events that wouldn’t have been possible in any other industries. It has also definitely not put him off music.
“Tom [Richfied] and I are writing new music,” he says excitedly. “What genre, or when it will surface, we don’t know yet, but we’ve started writing. The idea is to build up momentum. We’ll start doing it properly after the final Hindsights show.”
Despite stressing that he wouldn’t do anything different a second time around, Benio now has knowledge on his side. “I have contact with a lot of people I didn’t know what I was 18,” he admits. “As well as developing me musically, I’ve also got better at the business side of everything. I think I’ve got a good business head on me now.”
He has understandably reserved hopes for his new musical endeavour. “The corpse isn’t even cold yet,” he jokes, referencing Hindsights, when pressed on the matter. “It’s going to be strange adjusting to not being on tour, or not preparing for a tour,” he adds, looking forward. Still, with lessons learned from Hindsights, and nothing but fond memories and acceptance of recent events, it might not be long until he’s back on the road.